What People Say

Comments from the people who are concerned about newly proposed Town of Markham “environmental leadership” initiative affecting Markham budget, the Park, its wildlife, health and quality of life of park visitors and residents around the Park. Comments are from the petition “Stop Bioreactor Project – Save German Mills Park”, from other websites such as yorkregion.com,  Save German Mills Settlers Park! – http://savesettlerspark.wordpress.com/ and German Mills Residents Association (GMRA) – http://gmra.ca/issues/aerobictest/ as well as those shared by email.

Comments on June 23: You must stop destroying our green spaces and it must stop now! Leave Settlers Park alone. Your Bio-reactor will destroy the eco-system and impact people living in the area.

Comments on June 23: German Mills Settlers Park is home to countless species of birds and animals, including a number of endangered species. It is a joy to walk in this park, which I do daily. In fact, it is the main reason I moved to this area. If the bioreactor project goes ahead, it will destroy not only my lifestyle and the lifestyle of my neighbours but also the very lives of the many creatures that share this beautiful habitat with us. Please help us preserve German Mills Settlers Park!

Comments on June 23: I am beside myself with concern that this rare, urban gem will be destroyed. The damage to the environment and the local residents – human and non-human – would be staggering. It would be an unspeakable loss. Please help save German Mills Settlers Park.

Comments on June 12: I live in the US but visit Toronto regularly. One of my favorite walks is through the meadows of Settlers Park, especially when the Bobolinks and Eastern Meadowlarks are nesting..So it was with great distress that I read about the recent mowing of these beautiful fields. Grasslands and meadows are disappearing at such a rapid rate – Settlers Park is a rare gem and needs all the protection it deserves.

Comments on June 5: German Mills Settlers Park is an unique animal and bird sanctuary, the proposed plans might put at risk wild life and destroy unique ecological system.

Comments on June 1:  Please don’t do it!

Comments on May 31:  This is a technically risky project, projecting the results from a small test area to a much larger (more than 12 times) area, without knowing the composition (heterogeneity) of the waste. This aerobic technology will require injection of large quantities of water. Since movement of water in the subsurface cannot be predicted, collection and recycle of all the leachate will not be possible. As a result, more contaminated water will be produced. Any methane reduction will result in increased carbon dioxide production, which will be released into air and water. If the aerobic system is implemented, two systems (the existing monitoring system and the aerobic system) will require maintenance for probably several decades. From the environmental, technical and economic points of view the proposed aerobic system cannot be justified. This project may put Markham on the map, not as a champion of the environment but as the destroyer of an existing unique ecosystem, for the perceived benefit of methane reduction, if indeed this is the motivation.

Comments on May 30:  I first walked through the park with my neighbour when I was about five years old. For years, it was a piece of another world that didn’t seem to belong in our suburban area. Now, it serves as a reminder that even in the worst of conditions, like an abandoned landfill, nature will win-out. Destroying this place, would be to let something truly good die in the name of industry and science. I personally love science; I love how it can make the world a better place, but I think too often, science is used for all the wrong reasons. People never seem to realize that it shouldn’t be about what you can do, but what you should do. And I guess the ending question is: Should you destroy a natural habitat for money? Should you lower house values for hundreds so that the municipality can have a little extra cash? Should you endabger those same people with possible leaked toxins? You can do all of the above, but should you? And as for the rest of us, we can fight for our beloved ravine, but should we? Clearly, I think we should fight.

Comments on May 29:  Leave German Mills Settlers Park alone!! Go focus the time and money into a better project for the Town of Markham

Comments on May 28:  why is this being discussed again? We are NOT interested.

Comments on May 28:  I am concerned with this proposal just 125 m. from residential homes. Aerobic treatment of the landfill closed 37 years ago does not make environmental and economic sense. Methane monitor system probes abutting residential area show zero/near zero readings. Carrying out this expensive experiment ($530,000 for just first 3 years) in parallel with existing monitoring system will mean waste of ratepayers’ money, aimless destruction of unique natural wildlife habitat, disturbance of residential community, decreased value of the community property, reduced tax base, potential environmental/health concerns (moisture, temperature, noise and odour pollution). Proposal was turned down by the community in 2006 and now, even more people ask to stop this plan that lacks public involvement and does not address community concerns about wildlife preservation and effective budgeting policy. I request to ABANDON this plan as well as any efforts to continue with this experiment amidst the residential area.

Comments on May 28:  We told you we didn’t want it in 2006 and nothing has changed. The risks are still the same. Please listen again. The answer is catagorically and emphatically NO!

Comments on May 26: Town of Markham should respect public vote against the proposal

Over 200 people signed the petitions asking to stop the proposal. To do aerobic bioreactor experiment on a site, which was closed 37 years ago, with a reliable (thanks to the Town of Markham!) methane control and monitoring system and zero or near-zero methane readings means waste of tax-payers money and leads to aimless destruction of unique natural wildlife habitat and disturbance of peaceful residential community, painful resurgence of “landfill stigma”, decreased value of the community property and thus reduced tax base and could potentially lead to many environmental and health concerns, including excessive moisture, temperature, air contamination, noise and odour pollution.

Comments on May 26: German Mills Settlers Park is a Nature’s gift to Birds, Animals and Residents

Not only I agree with “herpol” 100% but like to add that this park is a Nature’s gift to many species of beautiful birds, animals ( rabbits, deer and more) and fish in water in the creek. Many residents have hung bird feeders to invite birds to this beautiful park. This community Ward Councillor and the Mayor have NO appreciation of this park and want to ruin this Nature’s gift.

Comments on May 26: Help save German Mills Settlers Park

This park is doing fine without the intervention of the town of Markham, there is practicaly no methane emissions, new trees are growing, mother nature is doing a better job than any of the “experiments” that the city is proposing (and without exorbitant amounts of taxpayers monies). I wanted to add my voice to an increasing number of neighbours that oppose this proyect and enjoy the tranquility of the park.

Comments on May 25: resources on aerobic technology and the proposal to use it in German Mills Park

Thanks for making this public! We need open unbiased discussion with full disclosure of details of financial, environmental, safety, quality-of-life and health impact. People need answers to disturbing questions on possible consequences and real long-term plans of the town. Related links below – let people read information from all debating parties to make a balanced objective opinion. Markham.ca – Public notice of the March 19 Meeting and brief info on the proposed pilot project Germanmills.org – Daily updated blog with information about aerobic technology, people’s concerns and opinions posts, petition and email to the project initiators. SaveSettlersPark.wordpress.com – An initiative of concerned residents. Petition, Issue description, simple facts, TFN papers, etc. gmra.ca/issues/aerobictest – Resources about aerobic test site. Text of Public Meeting held on March 19. bioreactor.org – Comprehensive information about various technologies used in landfill bioreactors, including aerobic, anaerobic and hybrid. bbeatty.com – project subcontractor website

Comments on May 25:  This complacent power hungry group at the Town of Markham should be voted out for riding roughshod over their constituents with mind boggling expensive environmentally questionable projects.

Comments on May 25: Pls leave German Mills park alone. It is a beautiful an natural environement area for animals. Instead of spending the money where residents don’t want, spend the money fixing the roas that was destroyed 2 summers ago which has become a breeding ground for mosquitos and get rid of the LOUD noise of the pump. We would have NOT bought our house if these plans had been in the works. I hope that you listen to the residents concerns and that these concerns are heard. Thank you.

Comments on May 25: Pls leave German Mills park alone. It is a beautiful an natural environement area for animals. Instead of spending the money where residents don’t want, spend the money fixing the roas that was destroyed 2 summers ago which has become a breeding ground for mosquitos and get rid of the LOUD noise of the pump. We would have NOT bought our house if these plans had been in the works. I hope that you listen to the residents concerns and that these concerns are heard. Thank you.

Comments on May 25: Really????? You can rest assured that if this goes through, this entire panel will have lost my vote, confidence, and respect, in people I originally believed had the best interests of its constituents at heart. I see that I was mistaken.

Comments on May 25: Any experimental technology should be tested far from residentoal area and should not disturb the nature.

Comments on May 25: This park means clean air, health and joy for the people and home for wildlife. Do not touch this without a good reason.

Comments on May 25: People travel here to bird watch. There has been several tree planting initatives in this park. We did these to benefit our enviroment and now this is threating to destory it. Put a stop to this idea immediately!

Comments on May 25: Please leave good enough alone…. I like the park, I walk in the park, (I relax in the park) It is my sanctuary. I hope you get my point.

Comments on May 25: The residents of this community deserve to be protected from any health risks that come from this project. My family uses this park frequently as do many other people in the community and it should be protected.

Comments on May 25: The health and enviromental risks far out weigh any potental benefits. This is a lovely park and it is a treasure to this community.

Comments on May 25: The health and enviromental risks far out weigh any potental benefits. This is a lovely park and it is a treasure to this community.

Comments on May 20: Dear Sirs, in 2010 I used to live in a house the backyard of which faces German Mills. I was astonished by Park’s wild nature. It would be a pity to see it disturbed.

Comments on May 20: The German mills is a settlement with schools, homes, parks. This project will effect the livelihoods of so many surrounding the parks. I completely resist any such action by Town of Markham.

Comments on May 20: Dear Sirs, in 2010 I used to live in a house the backyard of which faces German Mills. I was astonished by Park’s wild nature. It would be a pity to see it disturbed. Thank you

Comments on May 19: This important greenspace is home to countless birds and wildlife and should be left alone. Not to mention, a residential area is not appropriate for this type of experiement, when the impact on the neighbouring residences and wildlife is not understood. Conduct your experiment somewhere else.

Comments on May 19: Leave the Park alone.

Comments on May 18: Communities around German Mills Park, Park visitors, and wildlife nature activists call for protection of this place from a bio experiment in a residential area with a unique park and natural habitat. Two independent community sites were created with blogs and articles about people’s concerns – germanmills.org and savesettlerspark.wordpress.com. Two petitions are collecting signatures now. One petitions collected 42 signatures just in 4 days –http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop-bioreactor-sabiston-landfill-project-thornhil/ Another has already 120 signatures since April 30 – http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/save-german-mills-settlers-park/.
Isn’t this enough for the Town of Markham to realize that this proposal is not supported by the community?

Comments on May 18: Visiting German Mills Park yesterday for the first time, I was surprised by its wild nature. I never thought it can be so beautiful right in the heart of the city. It’s indeed one of the most astonishing parks in the GTA. We should take care of it – not play with it. Please don’t destroy this beautiful place. Save it for our children!

Comments on May 18: The proposed aerobic “experiment” will be a health hazard to every resident in our community.

Comments on May 18: The proposed experiment represents an unacceptable, irresponsible health risk. The status quo does not. The intentional destruction of a rare ecosystem will not make Markham a world leader in environmental concerns and/or issues : quite the opposite.

Comments on May 17: Please stop destruction of green space and invironment  around our area!

Comments on May 17: Hi, We are a young couple ( in our late 20s) just purchased our home – at Cottonwood court and we so thrilled that we were backing German mills. We put all our hardwork, effort and everything we have into this to purchase this home. We have so much of dreams and goals, and are planning our future and our kids future with the schools and the environment that we are surrounded by… If we prefered pollution or noise etc. we would have chosen a different neighbourhood. There’s a reason for so many people to reside around German Mills. Please help us and save our community and dont let our dreams be shattered. Thank you.

Comments on May 17: Markham is clearly trying to capitalize on what is now unusable land at the expense of its current residence. Would the people making the decisions be willing to live this close to this experiment? I would think not. Shame on you!

Comments on May 17: This beautiful park gives life and joy to all surrounding neighborhood and community. Please continue to help preserve this rare green space for our community.

Comment on May 16: This experiment has to be conducted in a non-residential area !!

Comments on May 16: Please do not touch German Mills. You can conduct experiments with Aerobic Bioreactor in abandoned landfields, but not in the highly populated area like German Mills.

Comments on May 16: Please do not touch German Mills. You can conduct experiments with Aerobic Bioreactor in abandoned landfields, but not in the highly populated area like German Mills.

Comments on May 16: Please do not disturb, or destroy this beautiful sanctuary in the name of money. It would be a tragedy.

Comment on May 15, 2012: This experiment should be conducted in a non-residental area. The former landfill is over 37 years old and most methane has released. I want Markham to show environmental leadership by protecting this green space from destruction and any proposed development. To protect the habitats for wildlife, the park should be left in it’s natural state.

Comment on May 15: nature good, Aerobic Bioreactor Experiment in German Mills Park bad

Comment on May 15: please leave our park as it is

Comment on May 15: The German Mills park is the reason why I moved into my neighbourhood in Markham. It is a very nice park that draws a lot of different birds and animals. It makes me sick to think that this conservation area can be so easily destroyed when the area is so treasured by those who live around it and when it houses so much wildlife.

Commnets on May 6: Absolutely agree! If the mayor and his team want to be “environmental leaders”, let them create this experimental nightmare at the backyard of their own homes, but let them not encroach on our right to live in a safe, calm, and clean place, which is the north-west side of German Mills Settlers Park, the former Sabiston landfill site, now.

Comments on April 24: This should be considered in a non residental area!

Comments on April 24: Yes this will have a huge negative impact on the parkland. The heat byproduct will kill the plants and therefore no animals will live there. The methane readings are at zero at the perimeter (landfill has been closed for almost 40 years, so most methane has been released).
This will cost the tax papers more money, cause the water level in the creek to go down (from the pumping of the water for this process), involve construction, noise, odour, unnecessary carbon dioxide release etc. The area may be expanded and the whole area will be fenced off and unusable (20 acres) for up to 30 years. We will not be able to use that side of the park. The end definately does not justify the means.

Comments on December 11, 2011: There is fear that this equipment will be noisy, producing an annoying sound that can be heard for some distance on a 24/7 basis for a number of years. If true, more thought must be given to the benefit with regard to the environmental cost (increased noise in the community). Shouldn’t the air quality study and even ground leaching studies to determine the actual severity of these problems, be conducted before the Mayor starts bragging about how it will put Markham “on the map”? If this equipment will be disruptive, shouldn’t more thought be given to the possibility of quieter equipment? The other local areas where this equipment is in use involve actual landfill sites, away from residential areas. This is on the border of several quiet, residential neighborhoods.

 

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3 thoughts on “What People Say

  1. stephen
    May 24, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    German mills is a beautiful nature park, as well as a historic park. It is a great oxygen-maker, a peaceful park for kids, adults and seniors, also a memorial to Markham city, even Toronto. How could some people planed to destroy it by the criminal and irresponsible testing. We should apply to make it (together with Berczy park) to be a provincial park to protect all existing. In this case, the land will be better planed and managed by both province government and Markham city, will have stronger support and better development.